Re: Eee, misinformation, and a note on hennalucent

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Posted by Shiraz on July 23, 2004 at 17:13:43:

In reply to: Eee, misinformation, and a note on hennalucent posted by Alison on July 10, 2004 at 01:35:21:

WRONG "Alison".. Henna does go away. Eee.. don't even try miss. My
family has a business of henna k?? I've been using henna for about 7
years. so hush

: : Let me help you out a little with the ingredients you added:
: :
: : lemon= it makes henna a light red color
: : wine= should be like a burgundy/wine red color
: : coffee= this makes your henna brownish color or it can make an
: : auburn/dark dark red color (with additional ingredients)..
however
: : with henna and coffee, you will get a brown color.
: :
: : I hope you didn't add all of these ingredients into your henna,
: : because that's not really how it works. If you want to tone
: ANYTHING
: : down, you can NOT add more of the thing! That just adds
: more "toning"
: : needed. To tone it down, you need to leave it alone. Henna fades
: away
: : as quick as may be a month.
:
: Henna doesn't go away, it's permanent. Also, your chart of henna +
: liquids is misinformation, as well. Henna plus acid will release
: lawsone, a red-orange molecule. The tannins in wine or coffee can
: add to the lawsone, but you can't get brown with henna. Auburn,
yes,
: but not brown. Using wine, coffee, and lemon is FINE.
:
: :
: : You know, it isn't exactly necessary to add anything to your
henna.
: : If you just add water, you'll get that classic redish-orange
color.
: : It's beautiful and probably the safest in case a mistake is made.
:
: Water doesn't release the dye in henna nearly as well as an acid
: does, unless your tap water is acidic in and of itself. The acid
: chews up the cellulose of the plant cells themselves and releases
the
: lawsone, and water cannot do that. Water and henna as a reliable
mix
: is a myth.
:
:
: Also, on hennalucent: they are "metallic hennas", ie, they use
: metallic salts as preservatives. I doubt strongly that they are
: henna at all, as they only come in brown. Metallic salt, or
: compound, hennas are believed to be the reasoning behind not dying
: hair that has been hennaed: they react badly with hair dye. For
your
: own safety, don't use hennalucent over your hair (which you said
was
: previously highlighted).
:
: In the future, to tone down the red some, I'd go with mostly grape
: juice (red) for your liquid--it's acidic enough to do its job well,
: plus you get a some grape tannins (think grape juice stains on your
: hands)--and maybe a little beet juice if you can get it. A little
: indigo will probably darken it well, too. I remember that "Omigod,
: I'm a redhead!" feeling you get the very first time you henna,
: despite strand tests. It DOES look different on your whole head.

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: WRONG "Alison".. Henna does go away. Eee.. don't even try miss. My : family has a business of henna k?? I've been using henna for about 7 : years. so hush : : : : Let me help you out a little with the ingredients you added: : : : : : : lemon= it makes henna a light red color : : : wine= should be like a burgundy/wine red color : : : coffee= this makes your henna brownish color or it can make an : : : auburn/dark dark red color (with additional ingredients).. : however : : : with henna and coffee, you will get a brown color. : : : : : : I hope you didn't add all of these ingredients into your henna, : : : because that's not really how it works. If you want to tone : : ANYTHING : : : down, you can NOT add more of the thing! That just adds : : more "toning" : : : needed. To tone it down, you need to leave it alone. Henna fades : : away : : : as quick as may be a month. : : : : Henna doesn't go away, it's permanent. Also, your chart of henna + : : liquids is misinformation, as well. Henna plus acid will release : : lawsone, a red-orange molecule. The tannins in wine or coffee can : : add to the lawsone, but you can't get brown with henna. Auburn, : yes, : : but not brown. Using wine, coffee, and lemon is FINE. : : : : : : : : You know, it isn't exactly necessary to add anything to your : henna. : : : If you just add water, you'll get that classic redish-orange : color. : : : It's beautiful and probably the safest in case a mistake is made. : : : : Water doesn't release the dye in henna nearly as well as an acid : : does, unless your tap water is acidic in and of itself. The acid : : chews up the cellulose of the plant cells themselves and releases : the : : lawsone, and water cannot do that. Water and henna as a reliable : mix : : is a myth. : : : : : : Also, on hennalucent: they are "metallic hennas", ie, they use : : metallic salts as preservatives. I doubt strongly that they are : : henna at all, as they only come in brown. Metallic salt, or : : compound, hennas are believed to be the reasoning behind not dying : : hair that has been hennaed: they react badly with hair dye. For : your : : own safety, don't use hennalucent over your hair (which you said : was : : previously highlighted). : : : : In the future, to tone down the red some, I'd go with mostly grape : : juice (red) for your liquid--it's acidic enough to do its job well, : : plus you get a some grape tannins (think grape juice stains on your : : hands)--and maybe a little beet juice if you can get it. A little : : indigo will probably darken it well, too. I remember that "Omigod, : : I'm a redhead!" feeling you get the very first time you henna, : : despite strand tests. It DOES look different on your whole head.
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