Re: my experience - not purple, but good.

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Posted by Kim in MI on October 9, 2004 at 18:05:47:

In reply to: Re: my experience - not purple, but good. posted by Diane on October 9, 2004 at 15:30:54:

: Hi Kim!

Hi Diane! :-)

: I haven't been here much lately, but I am getting ready to henna
: again on the kids term break in a couple of weeks ( I still try to
: schedule it around a time that I don't have to appear in public for a
: while because I still suffer from a significant "oranging" and it
: usually takes the better part of a week for complete oxidation on my
: hair.

What have you tried in later mixes? I haven't had the *orange* feel since I started
adding the indigo. I also don't notice significant oxidation, the times I was orange I
stayed orange :LOL

: Anyway I am still toying with the possibility of adding indigo,
: because I am still interested in a cooler colour. However I'm still
: so hesitant to do it with everything I have read here.

What have you read that made you hesitant? My *guess* is that you aren't going to
get cooler reds with indigo alone, and my fiddling with *other* additives (beet root,
coffee, black walnut, all to "push" the red to another color) seemed not to help much
at all. I think it was the indigo, really.

: Do you find the indigo fading quickly?

No ... but maybe a little. I did mine last Saturday and inside it looked quite brown-
black (ash brown) for a few days. Today it looked more dark auburn than ash brown
... so it might have faded some, but has kept its cool tones.

: You do a one step process, right? Do you mix it all up in one
: go, or do the dye release with each separately and then mix it together?

I do a one-step process. I mix the henna with lemon juice the night before, giving it
about 12 hours to the projected application time. In the morning when I see the dye
starting to release from the henna I mix the indigo, this time I used really hot water,
just a few minutes after boiling it, for the indigo, and in 20 minutes I saw a LOT of
dye release, I was worried maybe it was TOO much, but it seems to have worked fine.

: Where do you get your indigo, from Catherine?

This time my indigo was from Catherine. I have also ordered from
www.everydayhenna.com because she sells other things (beetroot, EO's) that I
wanted/needed.

: And most importantly, do you find any green cast in
: spots? I am really afraid of getting green where my blonder hairs
: where, not to mention the greys -- although I have a good amount of
: henna already in the hair.

No, In fact if anything it is my darker hairs that have picked up the indigo more, and
the gray (and I have substantial gray at the roots) is more coppery, but does not come
across as orange as the first few times. I actually took pictures of the roots (albeit
not great pictures) that I can try to post. (I sent them to Catherine hoping she can
use them, but I'm not sure if she can ... I haven't heard back from her, but I know
she's very busy!) I will post them in a separate thread to you, one pic at a time, so as
not to hijack this one too much LOL.

: I KNOW you have discussed all this before, but if you wouldn't mind a
: short recap I would really appreciate it (I have read your mixes page
: lots of times, but maybe your experience is updated since then?)

I've done the henna/indigo mix once or twice since the mixes. I did send Catherine an
updated picture and mix info this time, but again, don't know if she got it or would
like to use it.

: thanks a million Kim! (BTW, remember I'd told you the back of your
: head looked exactly like it could have been me?! I've since very much
: against my will cut off about 2-3". The hair loss from after the baby
: had made it so skimpy and thin and then the regrowth was starting to
: show and it looked bizarre, so twins no more!)

Oh, sad to lose my twin! :) I'm trying *hard* to grow mine out but also am fighting
the skimpy thin stuff after losing a LOT after my last baby was born ... I am expecting
again and HOPING that this time I'll grow a LOT of hair, LOL, but so far I'm still losing
only a little slower than right when post-partum shedding started and "baby" is 18
months old LOL. oh well, maybe I'll have long skimpy hair.

:)
Kim

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: : Hi Kim! : : Hi Diane! :-) : : : I haven't been here much lately, but I am getting ready to henna : : again on the kids term break in a couple of weeks ( I still try to : : schedule it around a time that I don't have to appear in public for a : : while because I still suffer from a significant "oranging" and it : : usually takes the better part of a week for complete oxidation on my : : hair. : : What have you tried in later mixes? I haven't had the orange feel since I started : adding the indigo. I also don't notice significant oxidation, the times I was orange I : stayed orange :LOL : : : Anyway I am still toying with the possibility of adding indigo, : : because I am still interested in a cooler colour. However I'm still : : so hesitant to do it with everything I have read here. : : What have you read that made you hesitant? My guess is that you aren't going to : get cooler reds with indigo alone, and my fiddling with other additives (beet root, : coffee, black walnut, all to "push" the red to another color) seemed not to help much : at all. I think it was the indigo, really. : : : Do you find the indigo fading quickly? : : No ... but maybe a little. I did mine last Saturday and inside it looked quite brown- : black (ash brown) for a few days. Today it looked more dark auburn than ash brown : ... so it might have faded some, but has kept its cool tones. : : : You do a one step process, right? Do you mix it all up in one : : go, or do the dye release with each separately and then mix it together? : : I do a one-step process. I mix the henna with lemon juice the night before, giving it : about 12 hours to the projected application time. In the morning when I see the dye : starting to release from the henna I mix the indigo, this time I used really hot water, : just a few minutes after boiling it, for the indigo, and in 20 minutes I saw a LOT of : dye release, I was worried maybe it was TOO much, but it seems to have worked fine. : : : Where do you get your indigo, from Catherine? : : This time my indigo was from Catherine. I have also ordered from : www.everydayhenna.com because she sells other things (beetroot, EO's) that I : wanted/needed. : : : And most importantly, do you find any green cast in : : spots? I am really afraid of getting green where my blonder hairs : : where, not to mention the greys -- although I have a good amount of : : henna already in the hair. : : No, In fact if anything it is my darker hairs that have picked up the indigo more, and : the gray (and I have substantial gray at the roots) is more coppery, but does not come : across as orange as the first few times. I actually took pictures of the roots (albeit : not great pictures) that I can try to post. (I sent them to Catherine hoping she can : use them, but I'm not sure if she can ... I haven't heard back from her, but I know : she's very busy!) I will post them in a separate thread to you, one pic at a time, so as : not to hijack this one too much LOL. : : : I KNOW you have discussed all this before, but if you wouldn't mind a : : short recap I would really appreciate it (I have read your mixes page : : lots of times, but maybe your experience is updated since then?) : : I've done the henna/indigo mix once or twice since the mixes. I did send Catherine an : updated picture and mix info this time, but again, don't know if she got it or would : like to use it. : : : thanks a million Kim! (BTW, remember I'd told you the back of your : : head looked exactly like it could have been me?! I've since very much : : against my will cut off about 2-3". The hair loss from after the baby : : had made it so skimpy and thin and then the regrowth was starting to : : show and it looked bizarre, so twins no more!) : : Oh, sad to lose my twin! :) I'm trying hard to grow mine out but also am fighting : the skimpy thin stuff after losing a LOT after my last baby was born ... I am expecting : again and HOPING that this time I'll grow a LOT of hair, LOL, but so far I'm still losing : only a little slower than right when post-partum shedding started and "baby" is 18 : months old LOL. oh well, maybe I'll have long skimpy hair. : : :) : Kim
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