Re: The need to be specific, and the need to know WHY

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Posted by Shelly on January 4, 2005 at 20:36:21:

In reply to: The need to be specific, and the need to know WHY posted by Catherine Cartwright-Jones on January 3, 2005 at 08:36:49:

Yeah, I've only been using Sudanese henna and I've gotten an
orangish result, except I add cloves to get a deep red effect.

Henna in North Africa IS spreading, just not in the U.S. I know many
who use it, however a lot of it isn't available in America.

: : African (North African practically) henna gives an orangish-red
:
: That's too general a statement to be useful. More specifics are
: needed here.
:
: The henna from Egypt presently does not have particularly high dye
: levels compared to that from the areas bordering the Thar Desert
: (India and Pakistan, see link below). I don't know if that's
because
: cultivation is not as intensive and controlled, packaging is not
well
: controlled, or because of local climate conditions. All the
Egyptian
: henna I've gotten has had a lot of rubbish in it so I don't bother
: with it. The henna wild-harvested in Sudan is ok, but the quality
is
: is variable ... well, because its harvested wild. So, if you
percieve
: these as being more orangey, that's because the lawsone level is
: relatively low, and you're not going to get the intense dye
: saturations you would with the body art quality hennas from the
prime
: growing regions. What you percieve as "more red" is a higher
lawsone
: level .... OR .... other dyestuffs are being added. This can be
: determined under a microscope.
:
: Henna from southern Morocco can yield amazing crops, and its
extremely
: clean. Other crops are ... well .... yawn. HennaBoy's Moroccan is
: comparable to the best from the rim of the Thar Desert.
:
: So .... its just not terribly useful to say "North African Henna is
: orangish red", because that's a very BIG place, and the lawsone
: molecule is orangish red in the first place. Its more helpful to
talk
: about specific lawsone levels, why they occur, how they are
preserved
: in processing and packaging.
:
: I would not be suprised if the expertise and technologies in henna
: production and processing spread to other areas in North Africa
over
: the next 20 years if demand increases. There are several areas
which
: should be able to produce henna with high lawsone levels, but
: presently these are not in production or distribution.

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: Yeah, I've only been using Sudanese henna and I've gotten an : orangish result, except I add cloves to get a deep red effect. : : Henna in North Africa IS spreading, just not in the U.S. I know many : who use it, however a lot of it isn't available in America. : : : : African (North African practically) henna gives an orangish-red : : : : That's too general a statement to be useful. More specifics are : : needed here. : : : : The henna from Egypt presently does not have particularly high dye : : levels compared to that from the areas bordering the Thar Desert : : (India and Pakistan, see link below). I don't know if that's : because : : cultivation is not as intensive and controlled, packaging is not : well : : controlled, or because of local climate conditions. All the : Egyptian : : henna I've gotten has had a lot of rubbish in it so I don't bother : : with it. The henna wild-harvested in Sudan is ok, but the quality : is : : is variable ... well, because its harvested wild. So, if you : percieve : : these as being more orangey, that's because the lawsone level is : : relatively low, and you're not going to get the intense dye : : saturations you would with the body art quality hennas from the : prime : : growing regions. What you percieve as "more red" is a higher : lawsone : : level .... OR .... other dyestuffs are being added. This can be : : determined under a microscope. : : : : Henna from southern Morocco can yield amazing crops, and its : extremely : : clean. Other crops are ... well .... yawn. HennaBoy's Moroccan is : : comparable to the best from the rim of the Thar Desert. : : : : So .... its just not terribly useful to say "North African Henna is : : orangish red", because that's a very BIG place, and the lawsone : : molecule is orangish red in the first place. Its more helpful to : talk : : about specific lawsone levels, why they occur, how they are : preserved : : in processing and packaging. : : : : I would not be suprised if the expertise and technologies in henna : : production and processing spread to other areas in North Africa : over : : the next 20 years if demand increases. There are several areas : which : : should be able to produce henna with high lawsone levels, but : : presently these are not in production or distribution.
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