You like the Victorians? Beware

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Posted by Elettaria on July 24, 2004 at 17:57:36:

In reply to: The fair virgin looks rather bored o/t posted by Catherine Cartwright-Jones on July 24, 2004 at 14:09:00:

I might try to corner you and talk shop about my dissertation, which
is all about those little buggers. Dracula and the Turn of the Screw
to be precise, originals and staged versions (play by Lochhead, opera
by Britten respectively), and the title is "Voicing the Silent: Gothic
on Page and Stage". So yes, looking at how desire is voiced, or not
voiced as the case usually is, or more accurately voiced in a way that
pretends it's not being voiced.

I mean, look at Dracula. The only way women can get any action (with
mysterious man from exotic country) in that book is to be sleepwalking
or in a convenient trance.

And then there's all the homoeroticism. Just been rereading Carmilla,
which is absolutely crawling with lesbian eroticism but just about
pretending they're "just good friends" and it's Laura's blood (from
the neck) that Carmilla is sucking at.

The stuff with children is freaking me out rather, I have to confess.
Creepy lot, the Victorians. It's funny, we think it's something
modern, the way women are expected to look like little girls (or at
least starve themselves that thin, and considering what little girls
are wearing these days there's not as much difference as there should
be in the clothing department), but the Victorians were totally
obsessed with it.

it's the way she's looking away with an expression of modesty (er,
more of blankness) on her face, and leaning away, but reaching towards
him with one hand and gripping her thigh with the other, isn't it.

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About 15 minutes spare to rant Catherine Cartwright-Jones 15:33:28 7/25/2004 (4)
- Hair in other texts Elettaria 18:17:27 7/25/2004 (3)
  - Re: Hair in other texts Catherine Cartwright-Jones 19:47:39 7/25/2004 (2)
    - I'd be quite interested to hear about Orientalist artwork Elettaria 21:07:53 7/25/2004 (1)
      - Re: I'd be quite interested to hear about Orientalist artwork Catherine Cartwright-Jones 21:59:45 7/25/2004 (0)
Victorians give me the creeps too. Catherine Cartwright-Jones 22:00:45 7/24/2004 (2)
- Re: Victorians give me the creeps too. Pierre 14:29:27 7/25/2004 (1)
  - What about Tasmanians etc., then? n/t Elettaria 18:01:22 7/25/2004 (0)

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: I might try to corner you and talk shop about my dissertation, which : is all about those little buggers. Dracula and the Turn of the Screw : to be precise, originals and staged versions (play by Lochhead, opera : by Britten respectively), and the title is "Voicing the Silent: Gothic : on Page and Stage". So yes, looking at how desire is voiced, or not : voiced as the case usually is, or more accurately voiced in a way that : pretends it's not being voiced. : : I mean, look at Dracula. The only way women can get any action (with : mysterious man from exotic country) in that book is to be sleepwalking : or in a convenient trance. : : And then there's all the homoeroticism. Just been rereading Carmilla, : which is absolutely crawling with lesbian eroticism but just about : pretending they're "just good friends" and it's Laura's blood (from : the neck) that Carmilla is sucking at. : : The stuff with children is freaking me out rather, I have to confess. : Creepy lot, the Victorians. It's funny, we think it's something : modern, the way women are expected to look like little girls (or at : least starve themselves that thin, and considering what little girls : are wearing these days there's not as much difference as there should : be in the clothing department), but the Victorians were totally : obsessed with it. : : it's the way she's looking away with an expression of modesty (er, : more of blankness) on her face, and leaning away, but reaching towards : him with one hand and gripping her thigh with the other, isn't it.
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